Will Obama Put His Money Where His Mouth Is? - Clinton Will

In a very interesting segment on Wolf Blitzer's Situation Room this afternoon, Clinton supporter James Carville pledged to raise $15 million to pay for the costs of new primaries in Michigan and Florida, and challenged Obama surrogate David Wilhelm to do the same:

You know, we're telling people all over the world to have
elections. And the United States of America is saying, well, we can't
afford to have an election in Florida and Michigan in the most exciting,
highly contested and important presidential election probably in the
history of this country.
We look ridiculous. I mean, let's just get together and have the
DNC put some money up. Have Senator Obama put some money up, Senator
Clinton's people put some money up and let's go out and raise the
money. We can do this easy, pass some paper ballots and count them.

We've all read or heard about Howard Deans suggestion that both states hold new elections, but he doesn't want to pay for it.  And we also know that Granholm and Crist aren't enthusiastic about having their citizens pay for it through their taxes, either.  So where does that leave us?

It's been suggested here at MyDD and in other blogs that the campaigns should pay for it, and it looks like the Clinton campaign is willing to help foot the bill.

CARVILLE: We'll raise it (ph). We'll raise -- we'll put up $15
million. I'll guarantee $15 million and have the Obama people put up
$15 million. And let's go to the polls come on June 7th. I've got
fundraisers that are lined up ready to go. I think the Democratic party
is going to look absolutely absurd if they don't have primaries and let
these people in Florida and Michigan vote. Again, I tell you what,
they're going to take (INAUDIBLE) to the general election if we don't do
it.

Carville hits it right on the head here when he says that we'll look absurd, and I'm very happy that Team Clinton is willing to do this.

But what does David Wilhelm have to say?  Does he accept the challenge? Blitzer asked him the question directly, and here's the answer:

WILHELM: Well, I guess that would be one of the options on the
table that needs to be worked out in conjunction with the national party
and the state parties. I -- I don't think the right place to hammer
this out is on your show here today. But I think it's one of the options.
No one has -- I -- the attitude of our campaign from day one has
been to play by the rules, whatever the rules are. The last I heard
from Senator Clinton's campaign was that they were insisting on the
seating of the delegation that was not elected several months ago.

Now, Wilhelm was dancing as fast as he could with this subject. I don't know if he wasn't authorized to speak on this subject or what, but Carville rolled right over him. To his credit, Wilhelm did eventually say it sounded like a good idea, but he wasn't prepared to commit.

So what about it, Senator Obama?  Will you put your money where your mouth is and ante up to do the right thing for Michigan and Florida?  With the Obama campaign's phenomenal fundraising skills, this shouldn't even be a discussion. Let's hope a definitive answer is forthcoming.



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Re: Will Obama Put His Money Where His Mouth Is? - (none / 0)

What would Carville or you say if Obama just offered to seat the delegates as is, but he gets the "uncommitted" MI vote?  (That's net +56 for clinton)


by mattw on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 11:43:01 PM EST

Re: Will Obama Put His Money Where His Mouth Is? - (none / 0)

I can't speak for Carville, but I have no problem with that.


Buddhist Clintonistas for Obama.
by Denny Crane on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 01:29:32 AM EST
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Re: Will Obama Put His Money Where His Mouth Is? - (none / 0)

SURE. That would increase her popular vote.


Wisdom Is The Reward For Listening Over A Lifetime
by gunner on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 03:38:34 AM EST
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Re: Will Obama Put His Money Where His Mouth Is? - (none / 0)

Okay. Well, that may happen - has the room, and it negates one of the most significant arguments for superdelegates going his way. He looks magnanimous, and when hillary says "I win large states", she can't really include MI and FL, since Obama basically just generously conceded them.

And yes, although if you count MI & FL, and even make conservative estimates for the states that don't report vote totals - most of which Obama won - he still is ahead even counting those. Although it's a lot closer.


by mattw on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:49:45 PM EST
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Seems like the Obama campaign is good at spending money poorly. I wonder if their fundraising will keep up now that he's lost a couple of big contests.


No longer a Democrat, now proudly an independent voter!
by Ga6thDem on Fri Mar 07, 2008 at 11:55:59 PM EST

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You don't see the reason why she is doing this, do you? Obviously, she has a lot of big corporate donors behind her who would pay the $15 million - they can't give her more than the $2300 limit for the primary, so this would be another way for them to buy some favors. I'm not sure Obama has this kind of big money behind him. And it wouldn't make any sense to use his internet fundraising money from small donors to pay for this - these people give him money to see him win, not to waste it for something the DNC should pay for.


by marcotom on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 06:16:00 AM EST
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Re: Will Obama Put His Money (2.00 / 1)

Obviously.  It's Clinton conspiracy to sell the election to corporate interests.  Please.  That argument hold no water at all.  Both Clinton and Obama have more than enough fundraising ability to generate $15 million in a matter of days.  I'd be happy to donate to both campaigns for this purpose.  There's no reason not to do it, and about a thousand reasons they should.


Buddhist Clintonistas for Obama.
by Denny Crane on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 10:11:14 AM EST
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Re: Will Obama Put His Money (none / 0)

I doubt Obama is particularly against those. Actually, given he is tied in MI already, I'm sure he's looking forward to Michigan; he can win there and negate the big state argument completely.


by mattw on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:51:12 PM EST
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Re: Will Obama Put His Money Where His Mouth Is? - (2.00 / 1)

wilhelm is dancing because the primaries wil lreflect the will of the voters. he's hoping for somethign more favorable to obama. right now hillary is up 16 points in FL,and rising every day. that 17 point loss in the january primary is going to look like a good deal to obama if he keeps stalling. he's gonna get beat worse than that.


by campskunk on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:09:36 AM EST

wilhelm (none / 0)

I doubt he has the power to issue binding declarations for the campaign. either wY im pretty sure there will be somw kind of revote.

at the end of the day its going to the supers. whoever they think is more electable will receive the nomination.  


by highgrade on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 12:28:43 AM EST

Each candidate should (2.00 / 1)

put up 1/4 of the cost, the DNC 1/4, and the state the other 1/4. Neither of the candidates can legitimately claim they can't afford it, while bragging about their fundraising prowess, and record shattering totals. The DNC should be responsible for some of the total, because if they had been smart enough to seat half the delegates the way the RNC did, we wouldn't be in this mess. And the states should bear some of the costs, because they started the whole thing to begin with.


by georgiapeach on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 08:56:30 AM EST

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This is a brilliant move by Team Clinton. Put up or Shut up.


by Fleaflicker on Sat Mar 08, 2008 at 09:50:08 AM EST


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